2017 Free Agents Receiving Qualifying Offers

[Austinfan]

I think the Phillies would be happy to have Hellickson accept the QO, Klentak has made it clear he's open to picking up veterans at the end of contracts, like Kendricks, as short-term patches.
Hellickson would let them be patient with the young pitchers and be good July trade bait if there's a log jam.

[tom81]

Hellickson has had a week now to negoatiate with other clubs. If he has not had any solid offers from other clubs yet I'd tell anyone interested to do do now or lose me to the QO if I were him.

[Squire]

Over the life of many different CBAs and systems, generating a compensatory draft pick has always seemed about 10 times harder for the Phillies than almost any other franchise.

[zambonir]

Heyman is Boras's main media feed, though it seems a little late to coerce a contract out of someone quickly. Boras does have a diverse history with QO players though. To me the issue is, Hellickson could go out and have an all-star season and still not do as well next year, because it will be a different market. However, if the Phillies trade him, he won't have compensation attached.

[bigegypt0417]

Heyman saying he accepted the QO...

[Squire]

Let that be lesson to everyone...Boras is ALWAYS just posturing. And if he's taking the time to posture its because the opposite of what he is saying is true and he's trying to change reality

[donaldorc]

Let that be lesson to everyone...Boras is ALWAYS just posturing. And if he's taking the time to posture its because the opposite of what he is saying is true and he's trying to change reality

This has always been true. Where has Boras' main detractor, CD been? Haven't heard from him in awhile.

[bigegypt0417]

Let that be lesson to everyone...Boras is ALWAYS just posturing. And if he's taking the time to posture its because the opposite of what he is saying is true and he's trying to change reality

This couldn't have been what Boras wanted...

[David_Criss]

Let that be lesson to everyone...Boras is ALWAYS just posturing. And if he's taking the time to posture its because the opposite of what he is saying is true and he's trying to change reality

This couldn't have been what Boras wanted...

Boras gets a decent percentage without having to do any negotiating and he has another arm to sell next year. I think Boras is fine. Hellickson is a 3/36-39 type pitcher IMO. I don't see him getting more than 17 a year at this point. Now, if he does well this year, that will be two solid years in a row to put up for sale this time next year and that definitely will be more in line with the <17 mil.

[bigegypt0417]

Let that be lesson to everyone...Boras is ALWAYS just posturing. And if he's taking the time to posture its because the opposite of what he is saying is true and he's trying to change reality

This couldn't have been what Boras wanted...

Boras gets a decent percentage without having to do any negotiating and he has another arm to sell next year. I think Boras is fine. Hellickson is a 3/36-39 type pitcher IMO. I don't see him getting more than 17 a year at this point. Now, if he does well this year, that will be two solid years in a row to put up for sale this time next year and that definitely will be more in line with the <17 mil.

Sounds like the teams interested in him didn't want to give up a 1st round pick...

[andyb]

I am a little bit surprised but am really fine with having him back. I'd even be open to a 3-year contract if the leverage let us dictate favorable terms. 3/45 would not be the worst thing and we could easily front load a bonus if that helped. No reason to go for a crazy long deal, but if there is any sort of discount involved it would not be awful. I am curious as to the type of offers they got for him at midseason, though there is legitimately a benefit to having a reliable veteran around when we are unsure about any of our young pitchers other than Eickhoff handling 180+ innings.

[Philsmania]

This is the same problem that we had when we tried trading Hellickson at the deadline. Hellickson just isn't first round pick good. As a result, he's basically stuck here until that anvil is no longer chained to his ankle.

[zambonir]

Well, he's prioritizing money over other factors (stability, winning). For which I do not blame him one bit. While also hoping performance and circumstance increase his value. But he and Boras could have passed it up and still found a perfectly good multi-year deal that still would have been a substantial raise over his most recent salary. Teams just don't want to take on the bigger contract and the comp pick. And he wasn't going to get signed today, so, bird in the hand.

I certainly think he could have been traded at the deadline for a similiar package as R. Hernandez, Utley or Ruiz (hey, all from the Dodgers!) but Klentak valued the comp pick higher than such a package.

[bkeich]

Hopefully we can now trade Hellickson for something at the trade deadline, but that would mean he needs to have another solid half season. Frankly it was a small surprise last year, so it was a reasonable bet we lost.

Shame we couldn't get something of value for last seasons surprise from Hellickson. It could be worse, my fear was that he would decline and not get an offer (I think that was very likely)

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[zambonir]

Shame we couldn't get something of value for last seasons surprise from Hellickson. It could be worse, my fear was that he would decline and not get an offer (I think that was very likely)

Not really, what was he going to do, retire? At some point, a team would have offered him a contract that they could live with even if Boras couldn't, while giving up the pick (especially if it was just a second-rounder, which would be true for either a protected team or a team that signed one of the other QO players).

Even if it was for major league minimum, the Phillies would have gotten their compensation.

[keith424]

I'm definitely fine with Hellickson taking the QO. It's kind of ridiculous that he'll likely be the Opening Day starter and highest paid player on the team. But ultimately, it's better to overpay one year at $17.2 million than two or three at $10 or 11 million.

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[baseballoldie]

Not too surprised he accepted the QO. He has publically said more than once that he likes it here and likes his role with the team. And I think he believes that the Phillies are heading in the right direction and he wants to be a part of it. He banks more money in one year than he has made in his entire career thusfar while pitching at a place where he is comfortable and confident. Sounds like a pretty good decision on his part.

[Philsmania]

The Mets' Neil Walker also accepted his QO. Unless I am missing someone, it looks like he and Hellickson are the only ones.

[flyers19rw]

I'd even be open to a 3-year contract if the leverage let us dictate favorable terms. 3/45 would not be the worst thing and we could easily front load a bonus if that helped.

If Hellickson would take a 3/45 deal, it would look like $17M (QO year) and two years at $14M. That has to be a palatable deal for the Phillies. It just is awfully hard to get value for the money spent on pitching in the FA market. Sure Scherzer is good but his deal is very expensive. After that the pay off has not bee so hot. Zimmerman in Detroit for anyone? Look at AZ with Greinke. These guys, at their age, are not financial bargains.

[BostonRoss]

Let that be lesson to everyone...Boras is ALWAYS just posturing. And if he's taking the time to posture its because the opposite of what he is saying is true and he's trying to change reality

This couldn't have been what Boras wanted...

Boras gets a decent percentage without having to do any negotiating and he has another arm to sell next year. I think Boras is fine. Hellickson is a 3/36-39 type pitcher IMO. I don't see him getting more than 17 a year at this point. Now, if he does well this year, that will be two solid years in a row to put up for sale this time next year and that definitely will be more in line with the <17 mil.

Not getting to negotiate would be a disappointment to Boras.