Phillies News and Discussion 2025 Season

zambonir 2025-07-01 17:00:20 UTC #803

Callison 2025-07-01 19:18:14 UTC #804

The "movie" version. Exc PR.

IMHO, Ranger and the Phils like each other. So maybe the Phils get first right of refusal. Needs to become a FA to set his price the way Boras' clients do. But the threat of injury is there today for both the Phils and Ranger. He's shown what he can do as a starter. That's about All Star level pitching. But to save his arm, ask him to go to the pen as a long closer. Both Ranger and Boras might like the idea. Long-closer performance by Rangel! Long-closer performance by Walker. Long-closer performance by Suarez! Limiting the PT of guys that can't pitch!

IMHO, the Phils would be crazy to trade Suarez now. If they tried, they'd likely get cheaped by everybody, but more importantly, he's way too valuable to the Phils to trade. For as long as he lasts.

andyb 2025-07-01 20:10:32 UTC #805

Game today postponed. Day/night DH tomorrow.

zambonir 2025-07-01 20:29:21 UTC #806

It's nasty

Austinfan 2025-07-01 21:09:08 UTC #807

Makes me homesick for Austin, "tornado sighted . . ."

EastFallowfield 2025-07-01 21:29:23 UTC #808

Zolecki points out that July 2nd is the anniversary of that double header vs the Padres in 1993 that ended at 4:40 AM.
Although to be correct it would be that July 2nd is the anniversary of the beginning of that double header, July 3rd was the anniversary of Mitchie Poo's game winner.

andyb 2025-07-01 21:31:01 UTC #809

I was more thinking it would be tough to do fireworks in the rain. Was that the Steve Jeltz DH?

EastFallowfield 2025-07-01 21:33:58 UTC #810

It was the one that started at 4:44 PM the first day and ended at 4:40 AM the next day when Mitch Williams knocked in the winning run (off Trevor Hoffman!) after pitching a couple innings. It was his only AB of the 1993 season.

And it led to a rule change about when games can start since game 2 started at 130 AM or so.

EastFallowfield 2025-07-01 21:40:45 UTC #811

A lot of good yarns and quotes from these 2 stories about that DH

https://www.mlb.com/phillies/news/phillies-alumni-crazy-doubleheader-on-july-2-1993

https://sabr.org/gamesproj/game/july-2-1993-phillies-salvage-doubleheader-split-on-mitch-williamss-walk-off-hit/

zambonir 2025-07-01 22:23:20 UTC #812

I would think they'd cancel the fireworks before they'd cancel the game. It might actually be thunder and lightning more than rain. We had both last night too.

So, Johnson as extra man tomorrow? I guess Rangel will also be ready to give them plenty again if need be since he's on the same turn as Abel

andyb 2025-07-02 01:50:20 UTC #813

Abel is pretty rested. Extra man would let them do a quick hook, but more likely they want him to go 5+ against a decent team.

zambonir 2025-07-02 02:26:59 UTC #814

I don't seriously hope it's required. The extra man neither. And Rangel probably wouldn't have a double-digit lead again this time.

andyb 2025-07-02 16:44:07 UTC #815

Seth Johnson up as the extra pitcher today. Sosa and Rojas in the first game lineup (against a RHP) and imagine Marchan and Kemp will play in game 2 (also against a RHP).

biggsphils 2025-07-02 19:32:48 UTC #816

Time to trade Abel before his stock drops any further

zambonir 2025-07-02 21:35:57 UTC #817

That was always the risk. But that also might tell you they were never that eager to trade him, because they could have stuck with Walker and left Abel under glass in AAA. I can't imagine they thought he was going to dominate or increase his value but they obviously weren't expecting Kolby Allard either.

zambonir 2025-07-03 00:46:40 UTC #818

I don't think it's guaranteed Abel makes his next start, but it apparently won't be Painter.

One scenario not under discussion, apparently: Bringing up Painter before the All-Star break.

In the offseason, as the Phillies scripted Painter’s return to competition after losing two seasons to a torn elbow ligament and Tommy John surgery, president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski said the can’t-miss kid would not make his major league debut until “July-ish.”

Thomson recently offered more details, noting that the Phillies intend to keep Painter in triple A through the All-Star break (he’s scheduled to start Thursday night for Lehigh Valley) before giving him a breather and assessing the situation.

Are the Phillies still committed to that plan?

“Yes,” Thomson said.

Any chance of deviating?

“I don’t think so,” Thomson said. “No.”

In that case, Abel would take his next turn, scheduled for Tuesday night in San Francisco. It would be his last start before the break.