MLB (Non Phillies) News and Discussion 2025 Season

[dicemen99]

Regular season performance against a team doesn't really correlate - that's been proven over and over. We want the team with the worst pitching of the three - it's that simple. Mets, Reds, Dodgers - in that order of preference.

[zambonir]

It doesn't correlate and also there is almost no meaningful difference between 3-3, 4-2 and 6-7. But I still think Mets are kind of "be careful what you wish for" (and familiarity also levels things a little, I think that's why both teams beat up on the other's bullpens last year). Dodgers definitely the ones to avoid, for both talent and road trip (though we can catch them tired in Game 1).

[Philsmania]

The Fox broadcast last night made reference to how the Reds' bullpen may be running on fumes now. Tito's been riding that 'pen hard. Even though they bested us in the regular season, I wouldn't mind facing them.

Guardians up early, Tigers down early, Yankees and Blue Jays up early.

Mets-Marlins and Reds-Brewers--both no score. Update--Reds just scored a run. Peralta pitching for the Brewers in a virtual ST game.

[zambonir]

Brewers forgot their game didn't matter but so did Mets.

[BostonRoss]

Mets lose and are finished. Tyler Phillips closes it for the Marlins.

[zambonir]

Heard the Mets team talk about how great Gregory Soto had been for them until recently. He didn't factor in. They pitched Diaz for two in the middle innings with the game already slipping away.

[flyers19rw]

If the three starting pitchers for the Reds are healthy, I’d rather not face them

[zambonir]

They did well against us for sure. But they won't all be available early in the series.

I can't imagine LA not winning but of course that was also true of the 3 seed each of the last three years.

[David_Criss]

Speaking of Mets...within minutes of being eliminated Pete Alonso talks about the Mets in the past tense and says he is opting out of his contract.

[zambonir]

I don't think that means much though. It was a no-brainer opt-out. But he had trouble getting a good deal last year. They are probably not any more eager to bring him back than they were last year, and yet, would any other team pay him more? (Unless we lose Schwarbs and it is us, of course.)

[EastFallowfield]

I did watch the Mets game in semi-fast forward before catching up with our game. Going into the series I was kinda disappointed it wasn't in Queens in case the Mets finished their 'slow motion collapse' for all the sad Mets fans shots.

But so many Mets fans showed up there plenty of shots were there for the cutting to. Not as fun as 2007 or 2008 since they were so far back at this point and this was for a 3rd Wild Card, but you take what you can get.

They'll always have those sweeps of the division champs in their stadium to talk about from 2025 til the end of time though.

[Philsmania]

Blue Jays rout the Rays 13-4:to take both the AL East and AL HFA. Yankees 8 game win streak somewhat for nought as they'll host their Red Sox archrivals in the WC round. Jays await the winner of that round.

Guardians clinch AL West when Tigers lose to Red Six but ultimately beat the Rangers to win in their own right anyway. They'll host the Tigers. Winner faces the Mariners.

Reds back into 3rd NL WC with liss to Brewers but Mets feeble 4-0 loss to Marlins. Reds head to LA to face the Dodgers. Reds first full- season Postseason appearance since 2013. Phillies get winner of that one.

Cubs host Padres with winner facing Brewers.

[EastFallowfield]

The Mets have finished with the third worst record in Major league history for a team that was once 21 games over .500

1905 Cleveland Naps
1977 Chicago Cubs
2025 New York Mets

Didn't know that Cleveland was once the Naps...

Lived through that 1977 season with the Cubs in our division but don't remember anything about the also rans from that year...

and, finally, LOLMets!

[Philsmania]

You know, the Naps were named for phormer Phillie Nap Lajoie.

As for the Mets...

[bigegypt0417]

They are the poster children for why just spending money doesn't make you a good organization.

They keep spending and keep losing.

[zambonir]

Historically true, but I wish I could write them off that easily. They still won 101 games in 2022 and got to the NLCS last year. And were smart enough to tank quickly in '23. It's pretty early in Stearns' tenure, too, and he has a great track record. Whether Cohen makes it harder for him to do his job versus our owner or LA is a possibility of course.

And if the Phillies are better-run, they'd be even more so if they were willing to spend like the Mets or Dodgers! Or if they could actually develop.

Right now we have the luxury of saying Max Kepler looks like a better signing than Juan Soto though.

[bigegypt0417]

Right now we have the luxury of saying Max Kepler looks like a better signing than Juan Soto though.

The money throw at Soto was appropriate for the performance but he seems to be hard to incorporate in to a team...and that money makes it hard for them to build around him.

It doesn't help that between Lindor and Soto they have almost 100 million in payroll next year.

[Philsmania]

There's a point where you can possibly have too many cooks in the kitchen and in terms of star position players and which one will be the star of stars and that may be the Mets issue with Soto, Lindor and Alonso. But then again, the Phillies had Rollins, Utley and Howard all at the same time though that may have worked fine because Howard was recognized as The Big Piece (though ironically Rollins & Utley will get HOF consideration while Howard will probably fall off the ballot after a year or two).

[zambonir]

There's multiple Athletic articles about this today. Definitely a change to the dynamic, with Soto and Lindor still kind of finding a balance as leaders. But the real issue was pitching (and health) and defense. Manager trotted the old (but correct) "winning is chemistry."

[EastFallowfield]

Soto did seem to get traded a lot before he hit free agency for someone with his talent...