Yeah, but we've now done pretty much a full season of the rest cure. If he has surgery after winter rest doesn't do the trick, he's missed his first 3 seasons and season 4 is a comeback from injury transitional year and the whole Rule 5 decision rests on the single year 5, when he will still be deep in the lower minors. Even if he doesn't need surgery, and I suspect that will always be hovering on the horizon, he has lost 2 years, and that's assuming he's ready to go next ST.