2025 Trade Deadline Discussion

[EDmuch]

Everything I have read is that Laureano is available. If he costs more maybe the Phils should pay it because of that extra year

[EDmuch]

Moniak has 16 or 17 homers!

[BostonRoss]

Moniak has 16 or 17 homers!

Yeah, but most of them are in Denver

[phillyfn]

And Carlos Estevez leads the AL in saves.

[mdougherty12]

Mickey Moniak 2025 splits (prior to tonight) - 1.013 OPS at home, .685 on the road

[phillychuck]

I mean, the odds are that at best two of those seven prospects mentioned will have a significant impact (not easily replaced) - at best. More likely one.

But you want to make them all untouchable.

I think I’ve written about this before...a team needs prospects to become major leaguers for salary control. In order to have prospects advance to the big leagues, you need a stable full of them, and the “horses” in that stable need to be fairly talented. The six guys I wouldn’t trade are what my stable would be if I were GM. I’d be hoping 2 made it to the show and played a few years on rookie contracts. I’m picking the six guys I would keep betting on the odds that maybe two of them will be essential low-salary options in a few years. I don’t want to make all prospects untouchable, but I would only trade the ones with actual talent for +WAR major league players. Most of the guys rumored to be moving are replacement level, and inconsistent even at that low level. No thanks.

[Philsmania]

And Carlos Estevez leads the AL in saves.

Letting him walk was a massive blunder.

[zambonir]

I don't think they were wrong to prefer Hoffman or to not want to tie up either of them multi-year, though they were kind of quick to snap up Romano given Estevez actually didn't sign for that much and Hoffman stayed on the market. I don't recall anyone really wanting Estevez back in the off-season. And both of those guys are still object lessons in the fact that you can stink or be nobody for eight years before becoming a Proven Reliever. Maybe they also prove you should trade for Rockies pitchers.

[HopeSpringsEternal]

Maybe they also prove you should trade for Rockies pitchers

Seth Halvorsen - Rockies closer; fastball sits near 100 MPH; can struggle with his control

[phillyfn]

I was just trying to show another example of “who would have thought” after the mention of Moniak.

[zambonir]

Oh I hear ya, but it just makes sense that if hitters flop when they leave the Rockies and Denver, pitchers would do better. I don't know is that would actually stand up to statistical analysis, and probably a lot of starting pitchers never even get their careers off the ground there, Hoffman included. But Estevez had a 4.59 ERA and 1.4 WHIP during his Colorado years. He shaved more than run off that in Anaheim and another run again in Philly/KC, though his FIP this year is still closer to 4.00, and was for us too. I don't think he's exactly a who would have thought because he was perfectly good for us, not a flop. Just didn't personally think he was a must re-sign, or better than Hoffman, and obviously the Phillies didn't either. Hoffman is not having a great year but he as almost as many saves as Estevez.

Would be pretty cool if Mickey keeps it up there even if it's Colorado-aided. He was cut by the Angels just this year.

[zambonir]

There it is, the move we've been waiting for.

https://www.mlb.com/phillies/news/brewer-hicklen-trade-phillies

[ArmChairGM]

Hmm. Crawford not in the LHV lineup and DD trades for a AAA outfielder.

[zambonir]

As small as the move is, it also prepares them if they trade or move on from any of the MLB OFs and also bring up Crawford.

Meanwhile:

Phillies among the potential fits for Diamondbacks’ Eugenio Suárez

Less than a week before the trade deadline, there are two types of conversations between teams: exploratory and substantive. This might still fall into the first category.

But the Phillies have talked to the Diamondbacks about Eugenio Suárez.