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 Post subject: Manny Ramirez: 50 Game Suspension for PED's
PostPosted: 5/7/09, 12:05 pm 
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This was in the Non-Phillies 2009 notes thread, but I think this news deserves its own thread - and I'm giving Sixerboy3 credit with posting it first:

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Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for violating the MLB steroid policy. Wow.

From http://www.si.com:
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BREAKING NEWS: Manny Ramirez has been suspended 50 games for a positive drug test, SI.com's Tom Verducci has learned


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Major League Baseball is expected to announce Thursday that Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder Manny Ramirez has tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs and will be suspended for 50 games, The Los Angeles Times is reporting.

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Citing a source familiar with the matter, The Times reported Ramirez is expected to say the positive test results were a result of medication received from a doctor for a personal medical issue.

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PostPosted: 5/7/09, 12:14 pm 
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Bill Simmons will be crushed.

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 Post subject: Re: Manny Ramirez: 50 Game Suspension for PED's
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Not my favorite player, but really, really shocking. It is hard to say as a Phillies fan "how could he be so stupid" but of course we have our own JC Romero to answer that (with his explaination).

Manny being Manny now has a new meaning.

I wonder if there are celebrations in Boston.

No HOF for Manny. Ever. This should exclude him in my opinion.

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It's just Manny being Barry.

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More from si.com:

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The source said the substance was not classified as a steroid but was clearly defined as a banned performance-enhancer according to the drug agreement between baseball and its players association. Banned substances can only be taken with prior knowledge and medical clearance from baseball's drug program administrators. Such exceptions are known as Theraputic Use Exemptions, or TUEs. The suspension is an indication that Ramirez did not have a TUE for the substance.


Leaving me to ask....in the PED era of MLB, is HgH viewed differently than steroids by fans, HoF voters, and the media?

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 Post subject: Re: Manny Ramirez: 50 Game Suspension for PED's
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mrburns wrote:
It's just Manny being Barry.


Good one

:P :lol: :laugh:

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I can't pretent like I am shocked. I know this is not real evidence, but I saw some highlights of Manny early in his career with the Indians the other day on MLB TV -- and he now has a totally different body type.

I expect players to mature and develop as they get older, but this is different.

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 Post subject: Re: Manny Ramirez: 50 Game Suspension for PED's
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I'm curious whether the failed tests was administered this year or last. I would assume this year--why would it take six or seven months to have the results--but if it's this year, and he wasn't trying for a contract, Manny is even dumber. He risked $8 million--for what?


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bkeich wrote:
Not my favorite player, but really, really shocking. It is hard to say as a Phillies fan "how could he be so stupid" but of course we have our own JC Romero to answer that (with his explaination).

Manny being Manny now has a new meaning.

I wonder if there are celebrations in Boston.

No HOF for Manny. Ever. This should exclude him in my opinion.


Can you say "Rush to Judgement?"


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bkeich wrote:
Not my favorite player, but really, really shocking. It is hard to say as a Phillies fan "how could he be so stupid" but of course we have our own JC Romero to answer that (with his explaination).

Manny being Manny now has a new meaning.

I wonder if there are celebrations in Boston.

No HOF for Manny. Ever. This should exclude him in my opinion.


Can you say "Rush to Judgement?"


Fair enough, but of course he has already been judged by baseball hasnt he. Unless you believe that they somehow erred in their judgment, which I guess is possible but very unlikely IMHO.

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So it raises the question, is anyone not using? Junior Griffey maybe?

Not to speculate, but I'm just going to post interesting photos. Attention to the forearms, boys and girls: ;-)

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And just for fun:

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mrburns wrote:
So it raises the question, is anyone not using? Junior Griffey maybe?

I highly doubt Griffey would ever use. I think a lot of people would have noticed by now.

I am so not surprised about this whole thing.


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This article says that the banned substance was a sexual enhancer. 8O

When MLB decided to ban performance enhancing drugs, they weren't messing around.

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Bananafish wrote:
This article says that the banned substance was a sexual enhancer. 8O

When MLB decided to ban performance enhancing drugs, they weren't messing around.


So, really, the problem was just "Manny being mini." :D

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Per ESPN:

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HCG is a women's fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body's natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle.

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