I officially hate this Phillies team

[LegoDoom]

I can get behind some combination of the three, but Hoskins would sit a lot.

Also who cares? Harper and Schwarber are the most philly people ever.

[xyzabc25]

Trade for Cedric Mullins. He provides lineup/defensive impact right away. The Phillies need to make a WC push this year, and next before the core group ages further. Below is a three year Mullins performance projection.
Season Age AVG OBP SLG WAR
2025 30 0.242 0.309 0.404 2.8
2026 31 0.239 0.307 0.392 2.3
2027 32 0.240 0.308 0.393 2.2

[LegoDoom]

https://youtu.be/dzE0LGb6xLw

[zambonir]

Haven't we been talking about trading for him since 2019?

[xyzabc25]

Yes. He becomes a free agent in 2026. Baltimore's 2025 season is not going well. They will be motivated to get a return for him around the trade deadline this season.

[zambonir]

Seems to me he's not that different from Kepler or Marsh except better defensively in CF. Marsh put up the same or better WAR than him each of the last two seasons, is still younger, and Mullins doesn't get 600 ABs either.

Phillies need a corner type bat (be it at 3B or LF or RF) not better CF defense, esp when they already have Rojas and possibly Crawford. And they don't need another LHB (which Crawford is as well). If they do in fact need to shake up/upgrade the position players in July it should be by replacing one of those three positions. Or, it's the same issue they've had for three straight years, just getting a decent RH OF to play LF part-time. Perhaps next year they will just get a great full-time OF Nick will be that bench bat.

[Austinfan]

Keep an eye on Kemp (25), Kennedy (26) [Don Money's grandson], Crawford (21) and Rincones (24).
All in AAA, all off to solid starts, even if Rincones is strictly a platoon LH (OPS .261 v LH, .898 v RH)
Crawford on the other hand, .988 against LH, .756 against RH. (.734/.815 last season)

Castro (26) is playing SS, last year was a lost season for him, 22 HR in 566 AB in the majors at age 23-24, so if he's an adequate fielding SS, another depth piece with some upside left..

Problem is none of the RH IFs are being used in LF, it's hard to see any upside in Mercado or Stevenson.
If Crawford comes up, it'll be to play every day, so only need one corner RH OF.

[BostonRoss]

I don't understand how anyone can hate the 2025 Phillies. While hate is too strong a word for me to use in this context, I recognize that others might use that word differently. But if you "hate" this team, how do you describe your feelings for the Phillies of, say, 10 years ago?

As to the three outcomes, that is the state of baseball today, and if you hate the Phillies, you'd hate other teams even more since the Phillies have a lower percentage of three outcomes than the MLB average. They strike out less often than the league as a whole and also homer less often (though I wouldn't say that's a good thing). You would really hate the Yankees, who whiff, walk, and homer much more often than the Phillies.

[zambonir]

Haha yeah I don't think any of us really consider what it is like to watch any of the other 29 teams, except on the days we play them. And it still sucks more to be a Braves fan (if not a Dodgers fan) over the last few years.

Personally I can't even get that frustrated when our hitters strand a runner at third with less than two outs etc. because I know they aren't actually being told do to that. In the long run I would trade 10 sacrifice flies for 10 home runs. Just waiting for the latter to happen.

[owaistabish]

I actually like the way they are playing. Its important to get hot at the right time.

What I do “hate” is Alvardo’s suspension. Just irresponsible on his part.

[julio]

I hate this team. I just hate it when the Phillies are at .600. I miss the good old days, when the Phillies could be counted on to finish at or near the bottom of an 8-team league!

/s

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

I can't believe this is a thread someone created for the 2025 Phillies. They might not make it very far in the postseason if they make it at all. But right now there really isn't anything to complain about. It's a long season. Let's just hope that they're healthy and close to getting into a post-season spot come late September.

[zambonir]

Hey did you guys know the 2024 team won a pennant? I think we tend to forget that already too.

[schillingfan]

I hate baseball fans sometimes. They can be very whiny, even though it’s a 162 game season, and good teams only some times win 100, which means they will lose more than one out of three games. And good hitters get an out at least six out of every ten at bats, and they can blow hot and gold, because it’s difficult to keep your mechanics. And good pitchers will give up a run every three innings.

I also hate when ignorant fans not only don’t understand this, they don’t understand salary caps and want proven over the hill players. And I someone call WIP and say we should trade Suarez. Due, he’s a free agent at the end of the year. He’s of no value to a losing team, we need him to win ourselves and only a winning team would want him to win this year, so they wouldn’t trade anyone who is going to help them this year.

And mostly I hate fans who think a season was worthless if we didn’t win the championship. Don’t you enjoy the season and the fun when you win, The journey is as important as the destination. My most memorable and favorite season was 1993. We lost, I still remember willing that Joe Carter home run to go foul. Heartbreaking, but that year I lived and celebrated and cried. That is what being a fan is all about.

[allentown]

I'm also not a fan of the concept that a team either wins a championship or is worthy of contempt/hatred.

[growe]

I don't even know why so much importance is attached to the World Series. If I had my way, the team with the best record after 162 games is crowned the best team in their league. We can still have the playoffs, but more on an exhibition game basis. I know fans (especially the casual ones) like the short series, head-to-head determination of best team. That works in other sports for the most part (yes, NFL, I'm looking at you!) but there is too much randomness in baseball for it to really prove anything (as we've certainly seen). That's not a bug, it's a feature. I love the nature of baseball being a long march and not a short sprint. No matter how good your team is, they're going to look terrible at times. And no matter how bad, they're going to have amazing games. Roll with it. That's the fun. Baseball is far and away the best sport on so many levels!

[BaseballCat]

I love this team. They are my team. I lived in the Philly area in the lean Rolen years and the team stuck. I have been out of the area for almost 30 years and I still love them. Bohm just hit a home run to go ahead, but if they lose, I will still love them. Frustration does not take that love away. Just my two cents on this thread.

[Austinfan]

I may love them, but if they underachieve I'm also going to curse them!
Of course, I'm still scared from 1964.
Though the 1970s healed some of the hurt, 1981 still pisses me off.

To be honest, it's much easier for me to root for the marginal guy who's overcome the odds than the $20+M player who wants sympathy when he's struggling and suffers angst sitting by his zero gravity swimming pool.

[zambonir]

This was one of the better reverse jinxes in list history!

[Sabin]

For me, I enjoy the game of failure. Expecting success 80% of the time is for the NFL.

Not if you're a fan of the Browns.

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